Cold Fog Vapor Gen Installed on van
This is my cold fog vapor gen I’m using to increase gas mileage.
The CFV injection has a few good purposes….
1 Recycle the lost thermal engery
2 Reduces engine temp
3 Reduces NOX emission by cooling the burn
4 Produces HP through the thermal expansion of water into steam
5 In a Hydroxy fired engine this is a way to retard the burn rate
WATER EXPANDS INTO STEAM AT THE RATE OF 1500:1
The fog vapor is ported into a engine right after the mass air flow
meter to avoid damaging the meter.
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that is not good …
that is not good for an engine. that does nothing to gain mileage nor horse power
In theory, the best …
In theory, the best thing to do with this system is to up the compression in the engine as the water injection reduces the risk of knock. You might want to skim the block or something like that.
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its the space ship …
its the space ship van from
yes I believe it is …
yes I believe it is carbed,Looks like its attached to the air filter cap.
I hope they are not …
I hope they are not trying to get any gains at idle. they wont see anything there.
water injection is good for High compression engines & turbo to lower knock and pinging(temps). not to save fuel. too much and the gasses cool down too much making things worse.
I would try it on a lean mixture engine running at cruising speed not at idle.
is that van carbed?
SO THE UNANSWERED …
SO THE UNANSWERED QUESTION HERE IS DID IT INCREASE THE GAS MILEAGE??? pROBaBLY NOT….
lol didnt think of …
lol didnt think of that till you mentioned it
Would greater …
Would greater savings be possible by fooling the engine management system as its doubtless putting out too much fuel - the vehicle looks as though its young enough to have such a system!
excellent point you …
excellent point you make
i’d like to try …
i’d like to try doing this on my 81 rabbit diesel. i actually thought of this today since it rained this morning on my way to work and i noticed it ran much better, then at work i was repairing an ultra sonic nebulizer and thought how a few of them put together could make more fog that whats reaching my intake. And also a lot of diesel people use water misters to spray windshield washer fluid into the engine, the water/meth mix helps make a lot more power, but thats no secret.
I agree with that …
I agree with that statement except for the Water to Hydrogen off the heat. In order for water to separate VIA heat its got to reach 2700 celcius and gasoline hits about 850 from what i understand.
The mix is too rich …
The mix is too rich. You can usually expect a percent of the water to convert to hydrogen, steam does produce mechanical energy as well as any burned gas. So, both reactions work well together until the mixture is too rich. Too much water and it won’t get hot enough to do either much less both. The same is true with fuel or you couldn’t flood the engine.
Back fire in the …
Back fire in the intake good by cell
This is simply ” …
This is simply “water injection”, a technology that’s been around since WWII (on aircraft). It helps eliminate predetonation by lowering the combustion chamber (and air intake) temps. I have ideas for something similar, but using HHO instead of water vapor. Good job and keep tweaking it!
Is there any …
Is there any advantage to adding more fog? Perhaps 2 of these things. DId your engine idle rough at all? I used a hand held wand steam thing used for cleaning BBQ’s etc and mine ran a little rough for a bit while injecting.
I got a 4mpg …
I got a 4mpg increase injecting the fog vapor.
Looks serious! So …
Looks serious! So whats your results on the gaz consumption? How big is the increase in gaz mileage ? Thanx!
higuy, can you tell …
higuy, can you tell me what exactly is a fogger please, where might i get infor on this fogger, im doing hydrogen tests aswell but keep blowing the chargers…ha ha ha … thom.
How about a single …
How about a single cylinder, hand crank to start, proof of cocept motor.Just 16:1 compression and a small fogger on the intake.That’s it.Surely some of you machine shop guys could pull this off!! Make our dreams come true!!!
Kid you not. Using …
Kid you not. Using 2 or 3 fogger setups at the same time on what would amount to a diesel engine with low compression (About 16:1 to 17:1 comression range could VERY easily be the answer to this whole water car idea.But there is no engine built that way because the compression is to low and diesel would not fire. And trying to use a normal diesel engine would result in pre ignition which wouldn:t work.
yer, my TDI honda …
yer, my TDI honda civic is loads faster in cold foggy mornings, definitely noticeable.
maybe this the key …
maybe this the key answer to hho.
ultra sonic humifier dissociate water to fog
with plasma ignition..water powered car can be archived.
The average car …
The average car engine only has about a 17% heat efficiently rating. Just 17% goes into turning the wheels and most of the rest is heat lost out the exhaust and radiator.
My guess is that …
My guess is that fogging cools the charge too much as it enters the combustion chamber where as the water gasket leaks allowed the ignition to bring the charge to peek temperature before it contacted the water on or near the top of the piston and quickly turned it into high pressure steam that continued to expand through the entire stroke after the combustion ceased its expansion.